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the oldest

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane my

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name is lon strickler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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strange manifestations of remarkable

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural come

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio where we

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explore the unexplained

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live on beyond explanation i'm your host

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lon strickler coming to you with an

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of historic gettysburg pennsylvania

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as i stated last week i'm developing a

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uh please let me know about it

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so i do have a report first of all we've

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been getting the reports in the

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chicagoland area have been picking up

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said he and his neighbor observed a huge

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f call him or call me he hedged for two

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he had no idea of the winged humanoid

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what he observed that afternoon

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anybody else had seen this thing

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so tonight i welcome pennsylvania ufo

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and anomalies investigator and colleague

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his interest in ufo subject

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he began in field investigations of ufos

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december 1965 ufo

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stan is the former pennsylvania director

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of thousands of mysterious throughout

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butler organizational research the

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at that time that he is getting multiple

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seeing three shiny silver spheres moving

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equally spaced apart and we're moving

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fluffy clouds object did near not appear

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section the witness indicated the object

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was very familiar with aircraft and

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stopped his vehicle and got out to get a

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better look

292
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the object moved into a cloud and never

293
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exited from it

294
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now that's interesting because over the

295
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last few years

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i've had quite a number of reports

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mainly in daylight

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of very large objects that go into cloud

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formations

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and sometimes these people are there for

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a long period of time

302
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i remember one case was 45 minutes and

303
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the object never came out of the cloud

304
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um here's another interesting case he

305
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had march 11

306
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also in butler county the man was in his

307
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kitchen during the evening

308
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when he began to throw a strange

309
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vibration heard a loud rumble

310
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he arrived realized that the sliding

311
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glass door on his deck was vibrating

312
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as he looked out the door he noticed a

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very bright

314
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large pulsating round object just above

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the trees at the edge of his yard

316
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the light from the object illuminate his

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backyard though it was the middle of the

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day

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he stepped out on the deck and was

320
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awestruck by what he was seeing

321
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at that time he fought a tingling

322
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sensation his hair stood up and in

323
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and he had chill bumps on his body he

324
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ran into the house called his wife

325
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ran for a camera when he came back the

326
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object was gone

327
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and that's just an example of the kind

328
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of reports we're getting

329
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and also what's interesting you know

330
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you're hearing a lot of these reports on

331
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the news now in recent weeks and months

332
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about the navy sightings and about the

333
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orb

334
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encounters what the navy is calling the

335
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orbs around the ships

336
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and a lot of those reports from what i'm

337
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seeing the definition of giving out of

338
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an orb

339
00:12:10,949 --> 00:12:10,079
or rather excuse me of a drone i meant

340
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to say

341
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is that um they're not giving a specific

342
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description they're not seeing

343
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propellers for example from anything

344
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i've heard

345
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in any descriptions that is very similar

346
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to some of the reports i've been hearing

347
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from people i've been interviewing

348
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that some of these objects are very

349
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bright they're spherical

350
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they're not that big they're low to the

351
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ground uh there's been some

352
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video taken there's been some security

353
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camera video taken

354
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different places and these people call

355
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them

356
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drones also because they don't know what

357
00:12:43,670 --> 00:12:42,320
else to call them but going back

358
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many many years ago i started

359
00:12:48,629 --> 00:12:45,760
investigating what i call many ufo

360
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sightings going back to the 1960s

361
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and and these are really really

362
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interesting and you don't hear about

363
00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:52,800
them that often

364
00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:55,760
but these objects range anywhere from

365
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one to two inches in diameter to maybe a

366
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foot to two in diameter

367
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generally spherical but they're not

368
00:13:06,470 --> 00:13:03,839
always in the spherical configuration

369
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sometimes a solid metallic looking in

370
00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:08,320
other cases they're transparent

371
00:13:11,590 --> 00:13:10,079
in other cases they're very bright

372
00:13:13,670 --> 00:13:11,600
lights or light sources

373
00:13:15,590 --> 00:13:13,680
of various colors but what's so

374
00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:15,600
intriguing is they're not high in the

375
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sky

376
00:13:20,710 --> 00:13:17,839
they're low to the ground they've

377
00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:20,720
approached people very very closely

378
00:13:23,910 --> 00:13:22,320
we've have really good incidents with

379
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these things that paced vehicles

380
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they've entered people's homes and cars

381
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through open windows

382
00:13:32,829 --> 00:13:29,360
uh it's just amazing with these kind of

383
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reports and then to make it even more

384
00:13:36,069 --> 00:13:35,200
fascinating in the last few years in

385
00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:36,079
pennsylvania

386
00:13:39,509 --> 00:13:37,680
and i've had reports from all over the

387
00:13:41,750 --> 00:13:39,519
country from other investigators

388
00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:41,760
and researchers and people witnesses

389
00:13:45,750 --> 00:13:42,800
that many

390
00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:45,760
bigfoot researchers are out in areas

391
00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:47,360
searching for bigfoot activity where

392
00:13:51,269 --> 00:13:49,440
there's a history of bigfoot activity

393
00:13:53,430 --> 00:13:51,279
and instead they're seeing these strange

394
00:13:55,750 --> 00:13:53,440
balls of light or other type of

395
00:13:56,949 --> 00:13:55,760
luminous phenomena they cannot explain

396
00:13:59,430 --> 00:13:56,959
and i'm sure you're hearing these

397
00:14:03,110 --> 00:13:59,440
reports as well on

398
00:14:04,470 --> 00:14:03,120
yeah we are uh uh and uh

399
00:14:06,230 --> 00:14:04,480
you know we've been hearing those for a

400
00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:06,240
while now where an investigator would go

401
00:14:09,430 --> 00:14:07,440
out to an area

402
00:14:10,629 --> 00:14:09,440
where there was been a bigfoot report a

403
00:14:13,990 --> 00:14:10,639
couple days later

404
00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:14,000
then they started seeing orbs and uh

405
00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:16,000
yep that that's something that people

406
00:14:20,389 --> 00:14:17,600
have been talking about

407
00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:20,399
let me ask you this um my investigator

408
00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:23,040
ryan he lives out there your way

409
00:14:29,350 --> 00:14:26,320
uh he actually lives in the renton plum

410
00:14:32,389 --> 00:14:29,360
borough of pittsburgh and uh

411
00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:32,399
he said that and he's had some ufo

412
00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:33,680
sightings out there

413
00:14:41,110 --> 00:14:36,720
in his area talking about a five-sided

414
00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:41,120
dice that they saw one early morning

415
00:14:44,790 --> 00:14:43,040
uh have you had anything that looked

416
00:14:46,629 --> 00:14:44,800
like that

417
00:14:47,829 --> 00:14:46,639
yeah and actually that's interesting

418
00:14:48,949 --> 00:14:47,839
because i know and

419
00:14:51,509 --> 00:14:48,959
you're gonna have to give me a minute

420
00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:51,519
here i have pages and pages of memos

421
00:14:55,269 --> 00:14:53,839
coming in here and i i'm gonna have to

422
00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:55,279
see let me see if i can find it

423
00:14:58,629 --> 00:14:57,600
but i know there was a report from

424
00:15:00,150 --> 00:14:58,639
cambria county

425
00:15:02,230 --> 00:15:00,160
that's up towards johnstown where

426
00:15:03,430 --> 00:15:02,240
there's been numerous reports over the

427
00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:03,440
last few months in the

428
00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:06,800
in this week in fact yesterday uh

429
00:15:10,629 --> 00:15:08,560
morning beautiful morning we got a

430
00:15:12,150 --> 00:15:10,639
report that this fellow is out there and

431
00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:12,160
then suddenly this

432
00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:14,160
solid white sphere just suddenly

433
00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:15,600
appeared out of nowhere

434
00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:18,560
it moved very slowly it blinked out it

435
00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:19,680
reappeared

436
00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:23,199
blinked out that was gone so that was

437
00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:24,480
yesterday morning

438
00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:27,040
and i know and i may might take a little

439
00:15:29,509 --> 00:15:28,800
bit time to find it but i remember

440
00:15:32,069 --> 00:15:29,519
clearly

441
00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:32,079
this witness told me what he saw looked

442
00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:32,560
like it

443
00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:35,360
like the five different spots on a dice

444
00:15:38,069 --> 00:15:37,360
and how that format it was moving across

445
00:15:39,990 --> 00:15:38,079
the sky

446
00:15:41,829 --> 00:15:40,000
and he described that very clearly just

447
00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:41,839
the way you described

448
00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:43,680
well ryan there you go you got

449
00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:46,000
confirmation so uh

450
00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:47,920
yeah he's been seeing a lot of stuff out

451
00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:50,320
his way so yeah

452
00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:52,000
well i know butch has been telling me

453
00:15:55,749 --> 00:15:53,519
too that he's been

454
00:15:57,350 --> 00:15:55,759
you know people reporting a lot of ufo

455
00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:57,360
activity as well

456
00:16:01,430 --> 00:16:01,120
so um it does seem it has seemed to pick

457
00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:01,440
up

458
00:16:07,829 --> 00:16:04,560
in recent months yep you're right

459
00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:07,839
um go ahead and these are not the

460
00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:09,680
starling satellites we've had a lot of

461
00:16:13,990 --> 00:16:11,279
reports on others and i think

462
00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:14,000
that led a lot to the surge of activity

463
00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:15,440
especially through last year we were

464
00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:17,040
getting many many reports

465
00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:19,600
so those were ufo reports but of course

466
00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:20,079
we

467
00:16:25,269 --> 00:16:23,600
there's a lot of things you can

468
00:16:26,949 --> 00:16:25,279
uh reports the ufo and they turned out

469
00:16:28,069 --> 00:16:26,959
to be misidentification or natural or

470
00:16:30,069 --> 00:16:28,079
man-made objects

471
00:16:31,829 --> 00:16:30,079
but the reports we're talking about are

472
00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:31,839
not falling into that category

473
00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:33,440
and i can tell you some of the reports

474
00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:35,120
from around the greater pittsburgh area

475
00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:36,720
that we're receiving

476
00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:38,560
uh they're over there over very

477
00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:41,040
popularly the suburbs of pittsburgh

478
00:16:44,949 --> 00:16:43,360
and um and again some of these reports

479
00:16:46,230 --> 00:16:44,959
are not high in the sky these things are

480
00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:46,240
very very low

481
00:16:51,670 --> 00:16:47,839
and some of these people been very very

482
00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:51,680
concerned over it

483
00:16:55,910 --> 00:16:54,000
interesting let me ask you since you

484
00:16:58,389 --> 00:16:55,920
mentioned the uh

485
00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:58,399
the uh military disclosure the

486
00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:01,279
government disclosure of these ufos

487
00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:04,000
apparently they now i guess the word is

488
00:17:07,590 --> 00:17:05,839
that the first of june

489
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,600
they're going to be coming out with some

490
00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:09,600
type of disclosure

491
00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:11,520
of sightings and such what do you make

492
00:17:17,029 --> 00:17:13,439
of all this

493
00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:17,039
well be honest with you you know i i've

494
00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:18,000
heard this before

495
00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:19,520
but even though it's interesting now

496
00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:21,919
because for the first time

497
00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:23,760
even though over the years we've heard

498
00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:25,439
talk of disclosure and information

499
00:17:28,309 --> 00:17:26,079
coming out

500
00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:28,319
this is the first time that you have

501
00:17:31,830 --> 00:17:29,520
figures from both the

502
00:17:32,789 --> 00:17:31,840
the republican democratic party

503
00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:32,799
supporting

504
00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:35,280
this type of investigation you know you

505
00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:36,400
have now former

506
00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:38,640
high intelligence people who are coming

507
00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:40,080
i'm saying there's something out there

508
00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:42,160
we cannot explain and we've known this

509
00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:43,440
has been going on for years and years

510
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:45,280
i'm sure you've done this too but

511
00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:46,960
in many many years i've been doing this

512
00:17:51,669 --> 00:17:48,960
i've been with thousands of witnesses

513
00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:51,679
including many many trained observers

514
00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:53,520
over the years i've interviewed

515
00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:55,600
commercial pilots private pilots

516
00:17:58,630 --> 00:17:56,799
corporate pilots

517
00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:58,640
former military pilots air trap

518
00:18:01,669 --> 00:18:00,320
controllers who have had these

519
00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:01,679
encounters

520
00:18:05,669 --> 00:18:04,080
and there's no doubt this phenomenon

521
00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:05,679
it's not a new phenomena it's been going

522
00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:07,679
on for years and years

523
00:18:15,029 --> 00:18:11,280
and uh and and i remember sometimes back

524
00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:15,039
maybe 75 70

525
00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:17,840
at that point of time there was talk

526
00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:18,640
again

527
00:18:22,070 --> 00:18:20,080
that something was building up the

528
00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:22,080
government was going to begin to release

529
00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:23,600
information to the public

530
00:18:26,789 --> 00:18:24,720
but they were going to start

531
00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:26,799
conditioning the public

532
00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:29,200
through various media sources for

533
00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:30,240
example through

534
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:33,200
motion pictures we heard through radio

535
00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:33,760
tv

536
00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:37,200
shows through uh publications that they

537
00:18:39,029 --> 00:18:38,160
were going to release certain

538
00:18:40,789 --> 00:18:39,039
information and

539
00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:40,799
and it seemed like maybe some of that

540
00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:42,559
began to occur at that time

541
00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:44,480
so i really think people are are much

542
00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:46,160
more aware of the subject today

543
00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:48,480
there's a huge public interest now i

544
00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:50,000
think people are much more

545
00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:51,840
aware and more prepared for anything

546
00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:53,600
going on personally

547
00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:55,679
uh when the report comes out i don't

548
00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:57,120
expect there's going to be any type of

549
00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:58,559
major disclosure

550
00:19:01,990 --> 00:18:59,919
i think there'll be a little more the

551
00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:02,000
door will squeak open and we'll hear a

552
00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:03,440
little more that yes there are these

553
00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:05,120
sightings going on

554
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:08,640
that need to be investigated further

555
00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:10,880
but for them to come out and say that oh

556
00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:12,640
yeah some of these are extraterrestrial

557
00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:14,400
maybe even interdimensional

558
00:19:17,669 --> 00:19:15,679
that i don't think you're going to see

559
00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:17,679
that at this at this point

560
00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:19,360
but i think we're living in a very very

561
00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:20,960
interesting time

562
00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:22,720
and i think we're going to be hearing a

563
00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:24,080
lot more about the subject

564
00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:25,440
over the next few weeks in the month

565
00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:27,200
ahead

566
00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:30,720
yeah my take on it is i i don't know

567
00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:33,440
you know when the first couple sightings

568
00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:34,400
were released

569
00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:37,600
uh coming off the uh the nimitz aircraft

570
00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:38,000
carrier

571
00:19:41,830 --> 00:19:40,640
plus uh the one that was out in the

572
00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:41,840
atlantic

573
00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:43,679
and it was pretty standard fare from

574
00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:45,120
what we have been hearing for over the

575
00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:46,240
years

576
00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:49,520
uh i'm quite sure a lot of people had no

577
00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:52,000
idea what had been going on

578
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:55,919
uh but this this new disclosure

579
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:58,000
other than something close to what

580
00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:58,960
they've been seeing

581
00:20:02,390 --> 00:20:01,280
i just like the the recent one where the

582
00:20:05,669 --> 00:20:02,400
um

583
00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:05,679
where they look like the ufo actually

584
00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,320
submerged itself into the sea

585
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:10,240
and of course we've been hearing a lot

586
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:12,880
of that for a lot of years

587
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:14,640
and uh you know some of the older

588
00:20:20,149 --> 00:20:17,200
reports even talk about that

589
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:20,159
about craft going under the water but

590
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:21,120
anyway i

591
00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:24,240
i i'm just wondering how much they

592
00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:25,440
really are going to come

593
00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:28,000
forward with you know uh you know when

594
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:31,120
they start talking about

595
00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:34,159
beings of some type or you know

596
00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:35,840
something other than just the craft

597
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:37,840
itself then i might perk my ears up a

598
00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:39,120
little bit

599
00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:41,200
uh that's what i'm really interested in

600
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:42,240
you know

601
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:46,720
you're more into ufos

602
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:50,240
than i am as far as intrinsic part of

603
00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:53,520
of the phenomena uh do you think it's

604
00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:54,159
gonna go

605
00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:56,320
get to the point where we're gonna get

606
00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:57,600
some real

607
00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:00,000
information that you and i or other

608
00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:03,280
investigators can use

609
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:04,400
uh if you're talking about the

610
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:06,159
government releasing it i don't think

611
00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:07,200
anything

612
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,480
in the near future is going to come

613
00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:10,640
along that line i think once again

614
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:12,960
you can hear more cases you're going to

615
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,679
hear more

616
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:15,840
of probably people hoping that there'll

617
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:17,120
be a more of a government

618
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:19,360
serious investigation of sightings but

619
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:20,400
you know

620
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:22,400
they're concentrating on the military

621
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:24,080
pilot segments which again

622
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:25,600
very important because you've got very

623
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:27,600
good trained observers

624
00:21:32,789 --> 00:21:30,640
but what also they need to be also

625
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:32,799
concentrating on is the fact that these

626
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:34,400
incidents are occurring

627
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:36,240
constantly i mean i deal with these

628
00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:37,840
cases mainly in pennsylvania

629
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:40,480
my heart has been open since 1969 it

630
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:41,919
never stops ringing

631
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,400
so between email reports and ufo reports

632
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:45,840
and just what's been going on

633
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:48,400
in recent weeks so you've got these

634
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:49,760
sightings that are going on

635
00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:51,360
and and a lot of the reports i've dealt

636
00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:53,520
with over the years these are not high

637
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:55,679
altitudes just lights in the sky which

638
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:58,080
could be almost anything in some cases

639
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,200
but i've dealt with

640
00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:01,360
multitudes of incidents of large

641
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:02,960
structured objects

642
00:22:05,830 --> 00:22:04,400
that are seen close to the ground

643
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:05,840
including in daylight and there have

644
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:07,360
been a lot of these reports in the last

645
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:08,080
few years

646
00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:09,840
and you're getting more and more reports

647
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:11,679
over highly populated areas

648
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:13,440
i mean there have been sightings in over

649
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,520
the years of in downtown pittsburgh

650
00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:17,360
there have been incidents where um

651
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:18,559
something has hovered over one of the

652
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:20,080
big bridges in downtown pittsburgh

653
00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:21,120
people reported

654
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,960
we had um the incident back seas 1989

655
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:27,120
and squirrel hill which is a very busy

656
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:28,480
suburb of pittsburgh

657
00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:30,159
and early in the morning witnesses

658
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:31,919
observe this very large

659
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:34,080
elliptical brilliant object with lights

660
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:36,080
on it right above the intersection and

661
00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:37,440
there's a police reporter and i have a

662
00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:39,200
copy of it

663
00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:41,039
we had an incident that most people

664
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:42,480
never heard about if you go back to my

665
00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:44,080
website i think you might find a picture

666
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:45,120
of it

667
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:48,400
in 2016 that a businessman during the

668
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:49,360
afternoon

669
00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:51,120
it was coming out from work he happened

670
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:53,360
to look up and seize this

671
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,840
uh cylindrical shaped object that looked

672
00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:57,760
like was hovering high in the sky

673
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:59,600
and suddenly the thing begins to drop

674
00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:00,799
from altitude

675
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:03,120
and it falls into the mon river and he

676
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,400
was able to get a certain amount of

677
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:06,400
video of it including one good still

678
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:09,360
i shot from it before it fell but these

679
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:10,720
are the kind of things that you're not

680
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:12,880
hearing in the news because

681
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:15,039
many witnesses even today the majority

682
00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:16,080
people would call me

683
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:18,559
they want no publicity and that's one

684
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:20,480
reason it's not making the news

685
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:22,400
and then you've got of course the navy's

686
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,960
talking about this more recent video

687
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:26,480
and the press is picking up quite a bit

688
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:29,120
of the object that drops into the ocean

689
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:31,600
well here in pennsylvania for years we

690
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:32,960
have reports of these things

691
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:34,640
hovering over the lakes and rivers of

692
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:36,559
pennsylvania and going in and out of the

693
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,840
rivers and lakes

694
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:39,600
but how often do you hear about that you

695
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:40,880
don't hear about it

696
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:43,600
no yeah i remember the one you had not

697
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,760
long ago in monongahela that was

698
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:47,520
reported to you

699
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:50,559
uh of the yoruba that went into the

700
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:54,070
yeah i'm not sure which one you're

701
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:55,840
talking about we've had a number of such

702
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:56,880
cases

703
00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:59,840
and uh i mean it's just a really amazing

704
00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:01,360
the things that are going on

705
00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:03,440
and your people aren't talking about it

706
00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:06,080
um this was one case maybe this was one

707
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:06,640
of the ones

708
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:07,840
we got a lot of reports especially

709
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:09,679
around the mon river and there's been a

710
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:10,960
lot of history of

711
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:13,600
not only ufos around there but downer

712
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:16,080
especially down in the mon valley area

713
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:19,120
yeah there's ongoing reports i mean

714
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:21,679
even this year last year we got

715
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:22,960
thunderbird sightings

716
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:26,240
we get ufo reports lots of varying good

717
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:28,320
close range bigfoot sightings and then

718
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:30,240
we have reports of strange things in the

719
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:31,520
river

720
00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:34,320
and i think one of the reports you may

721
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:35,679
have been thinking about was

722
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:38,960
um back in 2013

723
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:42,080
and this was not far from

724
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:45,360
marlborough in washington county

725
00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:48,240
and there were two very credible

726
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:49,279
witnesses

727
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:50,640
they were standing there having a

728
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:52,400
conversation

729
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:54,080
when one of the men pointed out some

730
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:55,760
disturbance in the water

731
00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:57,760
and about 30 to 40 feet away they see

732
00:25:02,310 --> 00:24:59,279
this disturbance

733
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:02,320
and he said there were four to six

734
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:04,159
objects observed traveling north in the

735
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:06,559
river each one was to be about the size

736
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:07,760
of a softball

737
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:09,760
and while it was difficult to make out

738
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,600
the shape they seemed roughly

739
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,440
round appear to be transparent and

740
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:15,600
possibly about a gray silver color

741
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,279
the objects move together in a random

742
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:19,279
group yet they appear to keep an equal

743
00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:20,240
distance

744
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:22,000
they said the speed would be similar to

745
00:25:25,269 --> 00:25:23,520
a duck landing on the water

746
00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:25,279
they were spread approximately four to

747
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:27,120
five feet apart from each other

748
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:29,919
with an overall speed of maybe 10 to 15

749
00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:30,400
um

750
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:33,200
an overall spread about 10 to 15 feet

751
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,840
behind the

752
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:35,840
object there was the trail in the water

753
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:37,679
that appeared about six feet in length

754
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:39,600
the trail itself seemed to be near them

755
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:41,520
and six to eight inches in width

756
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:42,960
this gave the impression whatever the

757
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:44,320
objects were they were seen to be

758
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:45,200
propelled

759
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:46,960
they seemed to be all moving at the same

760
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:49,120
speed each object could stand about

761
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:50,880
three to four inches off the top of the

762
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:51,360
water

763
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:52,960
which caused the disturbance in the

764
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,200
water as they moved whatever they were

765
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:57,279
they moved about 20 feet before under

766
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:58,240
observation

767
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,000
suddenly the group of objects all

768
00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:02,400
stopped at once and were no longer seen

769
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:04,159
it was as though they all sank or dove

770
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,919
under the water at that time

771
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:07,200
the witness told me that the

772
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:09,200
observations i just suddenly just ended

773
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:10,320
and they were gone

774
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,120
so what they were we just don't know i

775
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:15,120
got a question from nancy in the chat

776
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:15,840
room who

777
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:19,200
asked can the orbs be

778
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:22,000
consciousness instead of physical ships

779
00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:23,760
now personally i think that's very

780
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:24,799
possible

781
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:27,840
uh but what do you think stan

782
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,000
well once again they're maybe we're

783
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:31,919
dealing with more than one type of thing

784
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,559
i mean i've had people even in daylight

785
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,640
that had these things come within feet i

786
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:38,000
mean close enough to reach out and grab

787
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:38,640
them

788
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:40,559
and some of these if it'd be solid

789
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:41,760
metallic

790
00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:44,480
in other cases uh they're more of a kind

791
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:46,000
of a light source

792
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,600
and um i don't know i mean i i remember

793
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:51,200
one case years ago always stuck in my

794
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:53,039
mind because it's kind of fascinating

795
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:56,400
this is up around uh punxsutawney pa

796
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:59,039
yeah around where uh you hear the uh

797
00:27:01,990 --> 00:26:59,520
every year

798
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:02,000
the weather's covered with uh panzertoni

799
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:02,640
phil

800
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:04,480
and a woman omisha was in the kitchen

801
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:06,559
one morning had the window open when

802
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:08,159
these small smears

803
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:10,000
into the kitchen was floating around in

804
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,480
the kitchen so wet as her response she

805
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:14,240
grabbed her room starts hitting it

806
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:16,240
she said broken the two identical little

807
00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:17,760
spears they float around went back out

808
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:20,159
the window

809
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:21,520
yeah i remember some of the reports

810
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:23,279
you've gotten of uh

811
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,760
orbs coming into cars as they're going

812
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:27,120
down the highway

813
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:28,880
going around inside the car then going

814
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:30,159
back out

815
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:33,039
i mean that's got to be some kind of

816
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:35,679
consciousness

817
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:37,679
yeah well these things the most of the

818
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:39,200
people these things were something

819
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:40,399
physically solid

820
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:42,240
and i i know the one witness i've

821
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:43,760
interviewed him many times it had one

822
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,559
henry's

823
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:46,799
real nice truck beautiful afternoon

824
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,640
going down a pretty good rate of speed

825
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:50,320
outside of state college a number of

826
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,960
years ago and he said this thing

827
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:54,799
it just came it just floated right into

828
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:56,880
the open open passenger window

829
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:58,960
flooded all around him flooded right up

830
00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:00,640
to his leg and then went right out

831
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,600
through the battle of the truck and

832
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:03,200
disappears

833
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:06,159
amazing well stan here's a q i got a

834
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:08,880
question here that i get a lot of times

835
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:10,960
why do you think pennsylvania has such

836
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:13,520
high strangers

837
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:15,279
well you know it's going back for years

838
00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:16,559
and years i mean

839
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,880
you go back native americans those

840
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:20,399
legends from different areas of the

841
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,120
state

842
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,200
you go back to the newspapers there are

843
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:25,120
multiple newspaper stories going back to

844
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:26,720
the 1800s

845
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:30,080
that talk about ufo sightings and

846
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,600
bigfoot sightings but again back in

847
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:33,200
those days they're called the wild man

848
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:35,440
of the of the woods of the forest

849
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:37,679
and there have been accounts ever since

850
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,360
and these things go on and on i mean

851
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,200
there are tremendous number of

852
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:43,600
of newspaper newspaper clippings and

853
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:44,799
eric altman from the

854
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:46,880
pennsylvania bigfoot society he's

855
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:49,120
collected a massive collection of these

856
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:50,000
historical

857
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:52,159
newspaper clippings if you go to their

858
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:53,200
website um

859
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:55,679
i believe it's pabigfootsociety.com or

860
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:57,039
you'll find it real easy

861
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:58,880
you can go and look at these i mean

862
00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:00,320
they're amazing what's on there

863
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:01,919
and i'm sure there's many many more we

864
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:03,360
all know about but i've seen many of

865
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:04,399
them over the years

866
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:05,919
so this has been going on for a long

867
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:07,840
long time so this phenomenon has been

868
00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:08,799
going on

869
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:11,919
quite a bit and you got to remember now

870
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:13,600
my husband my groups were the most

871
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:14,720
active for years and years in

872
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:15,600
pennsylvania

873
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:18,960
starting in 1970 and uh the westmoreland

874
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:19,600
county uf

875
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:22,720
study group i set up set up in 1970

876
00:29:25,909 --> 00:29:24,399
it was kind of a unique group and that

877
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:25,919
the majority of people involved were

878
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:26,960
specialists we had

879
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:29,120
scientists and engineers and technicians

880
00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:30,559
and police officers and

881
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:32,799
former military intelligence people and

882
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,640
medical people and pilots and

883
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:36,720
all kind of reputable people we all did

884
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:38,880
this around our full-time jobs

885
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:41,360
but by 1973 we extended the cover of the

886
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:42,960
state of pennsylvania

887
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,520
and um i had it set up we could respond

888
00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:47,440
to cases again day and night

889
00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,039
and we're just being overwhelmed with

890
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:51,279
reports and surprisingly to us

891
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,200
we're getting a lot of referrals from

892
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,279
law enforcement and the news media

893
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:57,840
so we were very very busy but you've got

894
00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:58,559
to remember

895
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,279
since my hotline is open in 1969 it was

896
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:03,360
when the only place in the country

897
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:05,279
where the public could report ufo

898
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,720
sightings or other phenomena and

899
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:08,320
somebody would actually investigate the

900
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,120
reports

901
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:11,120
yeah about my mind still as active as

902
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:17,110
um during the uh i got another question

903
00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:19,679
from andrew during the 1973

904
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:23,520
flap uh was it limited to pennsylvania

905
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:26,720
or was it going on in other states

906
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:28,640
well pennsylvania was without a doubt

907
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:30,720
the most active because with the ufo

908
00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:33,120
sightings australia january 1st

909
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,640
continued to the end of the year i mean

910
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:36,960
there were hundreds and hundreds of ufo

911
00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:37,840
sightings going on

912
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:41,120
and you've got to remember in 1973

913
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:42,960
well there was no internet there were no

914
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:45,200
cell phones and it was actually

915
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:46,960
you can go back and find many many

916
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:49,039
newspaper accounts i i referenced a lot

917
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:50,880
of my silent invasion book

918
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:54,080
that the local the newspapers locally

919
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,000
a lot of the statewide newspapers then

920
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:58,080
nationally a lot of these papers were

921
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:59,440
covering a lot of the sightings of some

922
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:01,039
of our investigations

923
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:04,320
and then in the summer of 73 we had the

924
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:05,919
biggest outbreak of bigfoot sightings

925
00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:07,840
ever documented that went on for months

926
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:08,480
and months

927
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:11,840
into 1974 and that again was picked up

928
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,880
by the news

929
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:14,799
and i mean that we had multitudes of

930
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:17,120
bigfoot signs many were in daylight

931
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,919
many were extremely close range and

932
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,519
sometimes there was one two three

933
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:23,120
creatures seen together

934
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:24,799
and my teams would get out to these

935
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:27,120
locations sometimes within minutes or

936
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:29,200
hours after the incident occurred

937
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:30,720
and that's what was so important because

938
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:32,240
you could interview the witnesses you

939
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:33,760
could see the emotion

940
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:36,480
the fear you saw the animal reactions

941
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:38,399
which was a very important key

942
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:40,159
there was physical evidence at the scene

943
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,600
many times we had many casts of

944
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:43,120
footprints

945
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,000
but as also was during that time period

946
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:48,320
when a lot of very strange things came

947
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,279
to our attention

948
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:51,600
that we were not looking for i mean my

949
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:53,440
opinion at that time was that

950
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:55,519
bigfoot if it was real and i believed a

951
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:56,799
lot of people interviewed were telling

952
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:57,440
the truth

953
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,200
it was probably some type of unknown

954
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:01,440
animal that science had never been able

955
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:02,159
to

956
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,200
um identify but then these reports are

957
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,919
coming in from widespread areas

958
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:09,360
a lot of reporters came initiated the

959
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:10,720
police department because people didn't

960
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:11,200
know

961
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:14,240
who to call back in those days and

962
00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:18,080
um anyhow first we we sent our teams out

963
00:32:21,669 --> 00:32:20,080
and you have trails of footprints

964
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:21,679
under various type of ground conditions

965
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:23,760
including in the winter in the snow

966
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:25,440
and you have these large tracks with

967
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,320
these great strides between them

968
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:30,320
that is follow and they suddenly stop

969
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:32,080
and banish and disappear

970
00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:33,840
and there was no possible way under

971
00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:35,840
conditions that anybody could have

972
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:37,279
fabricated that

973
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,200
and then weird things began to show up

974
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:40,799
for witnesses you know if you only had

975
00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:42,240
one report to say

976
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:43,519
there's nothing to it but when you get

977
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:45,279
multiple reports from dif people in

978
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:46,159
different areas

979
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:47,919
one thing was people would say they're

980
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:49,679
looking at this bigfoot creature even in

981
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:50,880
daylight

982
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:52,880
and suddenly it physically disappears

983
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,080
and reappears close by another position

984
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:58,159
and they began to see that really

985
00:33:02,549 --> 00:32:59,760
strange pattern of

986
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:02,559
a ufo sighting then within minutes hours

987
00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:04,320
of days later a bigfoot sighting or vice

988
00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:05,519
versa

989
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:08,159
and then it got even much more stranger

990
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:09,200
when you had this

991
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:11,120
really good documentation bigfoot and

992
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:12,480
ufos scene together

993
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:15,679
at the same time in place and i began to

994
00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:16,159
notice

995
00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:18,799
a lot of very strange things going on

996
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:21,200
and uh it's been going on ever since

997
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,480
and you know i started writing about

998
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:24,559
that back in the 70s

999
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:27,679
and now in the last few years more and

1000
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:28,480
more

1001
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:32,080
around the country they're not laughing

1002
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:33,279
so much anymore

1003
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,039
because they're more aware of it now

1004
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:36,960
it's being reported much more

1005
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:39,039
the same kind of things been going on

1006
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:40,720
for years and years and years

1007
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:42,159
and now they're starting to take a lot

1008
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,720
more serious i said a long time ago

1009
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:46,559
i believe that bigfoot exists but

1010
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:49,279
where's the bodies

1011
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:51,279
well that's the that's the major

1012
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:53,279
question where the body's at

1013
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:56,480
um you know i i

1014
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,960
am don't advocate killing anything but i

1015
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:00,320
tell you we're not really going to get

1016
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:01,760
many answers

1017
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:03,360
to this phenomenon until we get

1018
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:05,519
something to physically look at it

1019
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:08,399
i believe what do you think of that then

1020
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:09,040
well

1021
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:10,800
one i'll tell you the more i know about

1022
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,440
the phenomena the stranger it is

1023
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:15,520
and you know that one case i had among

1024
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:16,960
others in 73

1025
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:19,679
and then three and 74 during that wave

1026
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:21,839
the one case that happened up near ohio

1027
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:24,639
fayette county one case that really

1028
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:25,760
convinced me

1029
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:27,679
that we're dealing with something that

1030
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:29,359
is weird as it sounds

1031
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:31,440
it's not these things are not a physical

1032
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:32,639
creature as we know it

1033
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:34,159
for a lack of a better term they could

1034
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:36,079
be interdimensional which i see

1035
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:37,440
more and more data that a lot of the

1036
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,839
other cryptids fall in the same category

1037
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:41,599
there's a fiscal and a non-physical

1038
00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:43,599
component to it but in that case in

1039
00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:45,440
february 6-74

1040
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:46,879
i'll tell you the story you may have

1041
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:48,480
heard it before some of your

1042
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:50,320
listeners may or may not have heard it

1043
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,320
but it was a really intriguing case

1044
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:54,000
and back at that time period some of

1045
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,440
your listeners will remember

1046
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:57,599
there was a big national trucker strike

1047
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,800
going on around the country

1048
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:00,480
there was gas rationing many people

1049
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,720
remember that there was violence

1050
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:04,560
across the country in pennsylvania on

1051
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:05,760
the highways so

1052
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:08,560
in pennsylvania national guardsmen were

1053
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:10,000
trolling with the pennsylvania state

1054
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:10,960
police

1055
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:14,400
they responded to the case

1056
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:15,760
that said to some of the national

1057
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:17,520
guardsmen now this

1058
00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:19,680
area was deep in the mountains way up in

1059
00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:20,720
the wooded area

1060
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:22,240
of fayette county where there's a

1061
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:24,079
history of these things going on all the

1062
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:24,720
time

1063
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:27,920
a little bit about it

1064
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:30,160
we had a report today of last night a

1065
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:31,680
bigfoot sighting occurring up in fayette

1066
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:32,880
county again

1067
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:35,520
anyhow went back to that so here's a

1068
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:37,839
woman who lives deep in the mountains

1069
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:39,280
lives in a little lived in a little

1070
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:42,320
cabin home new hannibal as well she grew

1071
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:44,000
up with them

1072
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:46,400
watching tv that night is normal she

1073
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:48,160
hears this noise on her small little

1074
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:49,200
porch

1075
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:51,359
there was a pile of pop cans empty

1076
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,480
popkins laying there

1077
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:54,720
like metal pop cans someone's knocking

1078
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:56,480
the pop cans around

1079
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:59,119
well a few weeks before she had some

1080
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:00,800
wild dogs coming through and she figured

1081
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:02,480
out best of those dogs are back

1082
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,320
so she thought you know what she said

1083
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,480
i'll go grab my double barrel shotgun

1084
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:08,480
and i'll load one chamber i'll just fire

1085
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:09,760
over their head and scare those dogs

1086
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,400
away

1087
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:12,640
so she proceeds to load one chamber of

1088
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:13,839
her shotgun

1089
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:16,880
she walks over opens the front door

1090
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,280
turns on the porch light steps out and

1091
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:21,119
right in front of her a few feet away as

1092
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:22,880
it's at least seven foot tall

1093
00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:25,359
hairy bigfoot type creature standing

1094
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:26,320
right there in front of her

1095
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,240
as soon as she hit the light it raised

1096
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,480
his arm straight up over its head

1097
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:32,640
and what does she do she fires right

1098
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:33,760
into it

1099
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:36,160
she said there's this bright flashlight

1100
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:37,920
a bright flash of light

1101
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:39,760
like the flash on a camera and the

1102
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:41,520
creature physically vanished in front of

1103
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:42,320
her

1104
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:48,240
said what are you shooting at she tried

1105
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:49,520
to explain

1106
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:52,000
her uh final law grabbed his sidearm

1107
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:53,599
started walking up to the house

1108
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,839
along the woods and he stayed surrounded

1109
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,760
by four or five hairy people with eyes

1110
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:59,040
like coals of fire

1111
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:01,119
started shooting at them and about the

1112
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:02,800
same time they noticed this large

1113
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:04,480
illuminated object covering over the

1114
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:06,320
wood at the same time

1115
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:09,119
so they called the state police by the

1116
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:10,880
time they got up there

1117
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:13,040
everything was gone however i talked to

1118
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:15,200
the primary investigator and he said

1119
00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:17,200
something really strange was going on on

1120
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:18,800
that farm he said when he got there he

1121
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:19,200
said

1122
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:21,440
it was completely silent they had

1123
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,839
several big dogs and one was an eskimos

1124
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:25,839
[\h__\h] i think it was a german shepherd

1125
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:27,680
the dogs wouldn't move

1126
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:29,599
uh they had horses and some other

1127
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:31,359
animals i know cats announced people

1128
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:32,480
said the cats were

1129
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:34,480
hiding they were very frightened and

1130
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,640
there was a young baby in the house

1131
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:38,640
and they said that baby cried and

1132
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:40,240
screamed all night while this stuff was

1133
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:40,640
gonna

1134
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:43,920
that never happened before and um

1135
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:46,320
i couldn't get gas till the next morning

1136
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:47,599
and i got up early in the morning with

1137
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:48,400
my team

1138
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:50,000
when i got up there everything was back

1139
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:52,240
to normal the dogs all welcomed this but

1140
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:53,839
i talked to the trooper and he said

1141
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:55,200
i i can't remember i think it may have

1142
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:56,960
been an eskimo spit

1143
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:59,359
in a cage and the dog wouldn't move and

1144
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:01,119
the guy opened up the cage

1145
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:02,640
and that dog should have ripped his arm

1146
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:04,880
up the dog

1147
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:08,000
that is very very common with lots of

1148
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:10,000
very close range bigfoot encounters

1149
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:11,839
you can fool people you can't pull the

1150
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:13,040
animals

1151
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:15,680
oh absolutely got another question in

1152
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:16,400
here about

1153
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:20,160
sightings of solid black gaseous orbs

1154
00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:26,150
i i don't know about the gaseous orb but

1155
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:28,640
i i've had reports of solid orbs i've

1156
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:30,160
had some that are black and

1157
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:32,240
some different colors and you know you

1158
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:34,000
get reports these things that kind are

1159
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,359
misty or foggy

1160
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:37,440
but also we're getting reports for years

1161
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:38,960
now of other crypt

1162
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:41,440
and bigfoot sometimes not physically

1163
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:42,400
solid

1164
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,160
sometimes misty foggy sometimes

1165
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:48,480
they seem to be part of the body seems

1166
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:49,839
to be out of focus

1167
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:52,400
or transparent i mean that's been going

1168
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:53,359
on for years and years

1169
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:55,200
like you don't hear about these reports

1170
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:56,800
very often but they're

1171
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:58,400
being reported around the country and

1172
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:00,160
around the world and

1173
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:02,400
so many investigators even years ago

1174
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:04,000
told me they knew about these cases even

1175
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:04,800
the 70s

1176
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:06,079
but they were not going to write about

1177
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:07,040
it because they were afraid of being

1178
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:07,839
laughed at

1179
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:10,240
my position always was i don't have the

1180
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:11,119
answers

1181
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:14,000
this is what's going on readers can look

1182
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:15,680
at this date and decide for themselves

1183
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:16,880
well like i said

1184
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:18,400
you know back then there was a lot more

1185
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:20,720
ridicule but in more recent years now

1186
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:22,160
there's a lot of things people are

1187
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:24,160
laughing at and it's just like what was

1188
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:25,599
happening here in the 70s

1189
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,520
has been ongoing ever since another

1190
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:29,440
location is very similar

1191
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:32,640
to skinwalker ranch oh yeah yeah

1192
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:35,040
i agree with you yeah you know there

1193
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:36,160
have been now there have been

1194
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:37,760
uh i got a question here but there have

1195
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:40,079
been reports of government taking dead

1196
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:40,960
bigfoot

1197
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:43,599
after been shot or they died you know we

1198
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:44,880
all know the story about

1199
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:48,560
uh mount st helens and such uh

1200
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:50,480
what do you think about that do you do

1201
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:52,480
you believe that there have ever been

1202
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:56,880
any any corpses of bigfoot taken by the

1203
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:58,320
government in pennsylvania

1204
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:02,240
or something that may be similar to that

1205
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:05,520
i've only heard stories um

1206
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,520
i don't know i can't say for a fact i've

1207
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:09,280
talked to a few people over many many

1208
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:10,640
years that told me

1209
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:13,359
similar accounts uh i can tell you that

1210
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,760
over

1211
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:16,000
the many years different gears and

1212
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:17,280
different cases i work on

1213
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:20,160
i had some very significant ufo and

1214
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:21,680
bigfoot case that i worked on

1215
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:25,040
and there was some indication that

1216
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:27,359
possibly it was government or somebody

1217
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:30,319
else was very interested in the cases

1218
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:33,440
and uh well and then again look go back

1219
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:36,319
to 1973 and i go into this uh when i

1220
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:37,040
wrote

1221
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:40,160
that i had during the time of that major

1222
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:41,520
bigfoot outbreak it would have been a

1223
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,760
september of 73

1224
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:45,920
i received a phone call from a man that

1225
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:47,440
identified himself as working for the

1226
00:40:50,829 --> 00:40:48,240
government

1227
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,839
he said they were very much aware of the

1228
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:52,800
investigations i i was doing the group

1229
00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:53,760
was doing

1230
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:55,839
they were interested in it i was provide

1231
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:58,000
the name of a government laboratory in

1232
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:59,200
washington

1233
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:01,280
i was given the name of a contact a

1234
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:02,640
phone number and address

1235
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,880
in the event that we came up with a body

1236
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:06,079
or anything significant

1237
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:09,839
like that and i never had to use it

1238
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:11,599
because we never had anything

1239
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:13,040
significant enough

1240
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:16,000
from what he was talking but uh i also

1241
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:16,640
had

1242
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:20,160
was received a call from two people

1243
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:21,839
associated with one of the congressman's

1244
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:23,599
office at the time because there was a

1245
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:25,119
lot of government a lot of public

1246
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,720
concern of what was going on

1247
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:28,160
they wanted to come to interview me

1248
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:30,319
about the investigations and they did

1249
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:32,640
we kept in touch for a long time they

1250
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:33,359
were very

1251
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:36,880
they didn't laugh at all

1252
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:39,440
they were very supportive and i gave

1253
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:41,040
them the phone number i was given they

1254
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:42,480
confirmed that yes it was indeed a

1255
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,079
government phone number

1256
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:46,079
and uh there was a lot of odd things

1257
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:47,680
that went on during that time period in

1258
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:48,880
73

1259
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:51,359
but um do i think the government has the

1260
00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:53,119
interest in these cases yes i do

1261
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:55,839
oh yeah i think and i think it's very

1262
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:56,800
possible

1263
00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:58,240
that they've been finding what i've been

1264
00:42:01,510 --> 00:42:00,400
finding for years that there is some

1265
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:01,520
connection

1266
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:03,280
and and once again let me stress this

1267
00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:04,480
you know we haven't talked about it

1268
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:05,599
tonight but we have some of those

1269
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,720
amazing cases

1270
00:42:11,589 --> 00:42:08,640
such as that multiple witness ufo

1271
00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:11,599
landing october 25th to 73

1272
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:13,119
probably one of the strangest most

1273
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:14,720
significant cases on record

1274
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:17,920
of a huge ufo that people saw fall from

1275
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:18,400
the sky

1276
00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:22,640
illuminating in the whole area making a

1277
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:24,319
high-pitched winding noise

1278
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:26,720
and when three witnesses went there

1279
00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:27,680
there were

1280
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,079
creepers in the field at the same time

1281
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:31,680
and the fellow

1282
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:34,079
uh the older fellow had a 30-yard six

1283
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:34,800
with him

1284
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:37,359
and some ammo and in that ammo he had

1285
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,960
two tracer rounds

1286
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:40,560
he didn't realize that at the time but

1287
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:43,119
that tracy just get that luminous trail

1288
00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:44,480
when you fire it you can see the

1289
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:47,359
trajectory he fired the first tracer at

1290
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,319
it

1291
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:50,319
nothing happened when he fired that

1292
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:51,839
second tracer

1293
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:54,079
the eighth foot tall largest creature

1294
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:55,599
covered with long dark matted hair

1295
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:57,200
hanging off the body with glowing green

1296
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,680
eyes

1297
00:43:01,589 --> 00:43:00,000
made this loud whining crying noise

1298
00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:01,599
reached out and said to grab at that

1299
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:02,400
tracer

1300
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:04,720
and the exact moment it did that that

1301
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,000
huge object

1302
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:08,240
physically vanished in front of them it

1303
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:09,599
just disappeared

1304
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:12,000
most of the glowing area went away most

1305
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:13,599
of the luminosity went away

1306
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,760
that the sound stopped the creatures

1307
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:17,040
turned around started walking back

1308
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,160
towards the woods

1309
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:20,480
he's loading at the gun the 30.6 with

1310
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,440
live ammo

1311
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:23,440
firing right into him with no effect on

1312
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,280
whatsoever

1313
00:43:29,030 --> 00:43:27,520
the short part of the story was they

1314
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:29,040
called the state police when their troop

1315
00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:30,800
arrived 45 minutes later went up in a

1316
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:31,760
troop car

1317
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,160
talked to a trooper he said the area

1318
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:36,240
where the object was on the ground

1319
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:38,400
was self-luminescent glowing about 100

1320
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,000
feet or more in diameter

1321
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:41,760
he said the farmer animals wouldn't go

1322
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:44,000
into it he said if he sat down

1323
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:45,760
in it with a newspaper he could probably

1324
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,680
read the newspaper from the light coming

1325
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:49,200
off the glow

1326
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:52,000
that was a major investigation oh yeah

1327
00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:54,480
that's a classic story

1328
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:56,240
and there was a lot of weirder weirder

1329
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:58,319
parts of the story which it's in my cell

1330
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:00,079
on the facebook the whole thing

1331
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:02,800
that was the case that really made us

1332
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:04,160
aware that we're dealing with something

1333
00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:05,839
that's much stranger than any of us had

1334
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:07,839
ever

1335
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:10,400
i got another question have you heard of

1336
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:11,359
any

1337
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:19,349
um yes over the years i've heard small

1338
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,079
ones but in more recent years

1339
00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:24,560
including this year we've had numerous

1340
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,000
reports of very

1341
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:28,800
large solid metallic sometimes black

1342
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:30,000
even in daylight

1343
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:33,839
use rectangular objects being observed

1344
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:36,240
and that's been going on in many areas

1345
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:37,520
of the state especially in the greater

1346
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,720
pittsburgh area

1347
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:40,240
down in the mon valley remember a few

1348
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:42,000
years ago we had reports of these things

1349
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:43,280
hovering right over the trees in the

1350
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:46,480
afternoon so yeah we've had reports of

1351
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:50,000
rectangular objects being observed i

1352
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:51,520
also got a question

1353
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:53,200
about something you and i have talked

1354
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:54,800
about before

1355
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:57,680
uh about the pale humanoid reports and

1356
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,880
uh

1357
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:00,800
if you're getting reports of those here

1358
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:02,160
in the state i've had

1359
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:04,960
a few uh have you gotten anything since

1360
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:07,200
i talked to you about them

1361
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:09,599
well those reports kind of dropped off a

1362
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:10,240
little

1363
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,319
i think probably last they dropped off a

1364
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:14,079
lot but i was hearing reports from

1365
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:15,200
around the country

1366
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:17,760
of other states reporting them however

1367
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:18,560
this past

1368
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:21,440
april now i've had there's been three

1369
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:22,560
different reports

1370
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:25,359
from other different areas where people

1371
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,880
have not been close to them but they've

1372
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:28,560
all reported seeing something

1373
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:31,280
seven to eight foot tall dark in color

1374
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:32,720
and very thin

1375
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:35,119
that they're all reporting so and there

1376
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,640
was no indi they couldn't see hair on

1377
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:38,400
the body was too far away

1378
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,640
but whether it was a bigfoot or whether

1379
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:42,240
it fell in this category

1380
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,240
we don't know yeah well

1381
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,319
we got a case that we're looking at now

1382
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:50,160
in french creek

1383
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:52,640
uh state park out over there where butch

1384
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:53,839
is that

1385
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:56,720
uh that's a weird one and it it has

1386
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:57,839
something to do with

1387
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:01,040
one of these beings we also had a

1388
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:02,079
sighting

1389
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,560
about a year ago over in cambria county

1390
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:05,680
so

1391
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:07,440
we got them occasionally here but you're

1392
00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:09,359
right i mean pennsylvania has really not

1393
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,240
had a lot of those sightings

1394
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:14,880
no but uh i mean once we had when this

1395
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:17,680
all started basically back in 2017

1396
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:20,480
when um i received that report from that

1397
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:22,000
uh police officer

1398
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:23,760
i mean that was just a really

1399
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,440
interesting report

1400
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:28,400
and um that's the one where the fella

1401
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:30,800
saw the glowing ball on the ground

1402
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:33,440
the police officer back in august of

1403
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:34,560
2017.

1404
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:36,319
and it's an area that he patrolled all

1405
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:37,680
the time he never remembers any

1406
00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:39,280
artificial lighting on the ground like

1407
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:39,920
that

1408
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:43,200
so he's riding down the road and he sees

1409
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:44,640
his ball of light on the ground so he

1410
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:45,920
stops his cruiser

1411
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,079
and he's watches and suddenly this ball

1412
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:50,319
of light rises up from the ground

1413
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:53,200
and he realizes it's the head he said it

1414
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:54,480
was the weirdest thing he's ever seen

1415
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:54,960
it's like

1416
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:57,440
it's a head of a being about six feet or

1417
00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:58,160
taller

1418
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:00,640
he said it was tall and almost skeletal

1419
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,520
thin

1420
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,599
and it was hairless he said when he

1421
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:05,359
first saw it he thinks it was lying on

1422
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:06,079
its body

1423
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:08,400
his belly on the ground facing towards

1424
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:09,119
the road

1425
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:12,240
then it stood up and it turned but he

1426
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:12,640
said

1427
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:15,200
um the the dull illumination from the

1428
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:17,599
head lit up the upper part of the body

1429
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:19,839
and he said the head was more roundish

1430
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:21,119
but it could have been a little more egg

1431
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:21,839
shaped

1432
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:23,359
he said the head was about eight to ten

1433
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:25,040
inches in diameter

1434
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:28,079
and um he said the light emitted seemed

1435
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:28,880
to be just

1436
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:31,280
dull white illuminated the shoulders the

1437
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:32,800
top of the chest and the section of the

1438
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:33,599
arms

1439
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:35,359
he could not see any hands the chest

1440
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:38,000
looked to be about 18 inches across

1441
00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:40,640
the waist appeared to be small the arms

1442
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:42,640
were unusually long the long limbs

1443
00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:44,800
looked skeletal with no muscle mass

1444
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:47,119
the skin tone of the p of the body

1445
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:49,040
appeared to be kind of a dull grayish

1446
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:50,160
blue

1447
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,160
and it lasted about 10 seconds but he

1448
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,640
said he said i've never seen any move so

1449
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:56,079
fast in my life he said it was like

1450
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:57,359
there and it was gone

1451
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:59,920
and interestingly that's almost the same

1452
00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:00,800
words

1453
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:02,480
so some witnesses have told him the last

1454
00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:04,240
couple year sing bigfoot

1455
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:05,920
but these things suddenly appear out of

1456
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:07,359
nowhere and they're going i mean

1457
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,680
one witness contacted me this would have

1458
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:11,680
been i believe two years ago they were

1459
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:13,440
going to work early morning

1460
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:16,400
and the witness said to me she said it

1461
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:18,079
was like watching a predator movie she

1462
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:19,200
said this thing

1463
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,040
right in front of our vehicle it's eight

1464
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,800
seven eight foot tall it suddenly

1465
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:23,760
appears

1466
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:26,160
you i could see from head to toe it

1467
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:28,000
moved and then something is gone it was

1468
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,200
peered and disappeared

1469
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:31,200
and that's we're hearing more and more

1470
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,559
of and

1471
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:34,240
um again you're getting these reports

1472
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:35,839
from all over the country and around the

1473
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:36,720
world

1474
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:40,000
and this is a much more unusual

1475
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,559
aspect of the phenomena and like i said

1476
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:44,240
the more i know about it the stranger it

1477
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:45,760
is

1478
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:49,119
yeah um now

1479
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:50,960
somebody had asked the in the chat room

1480
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:53,280
about men in black

1481
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:56,480
uh i i personally had some encounters

1482
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:59,040
that were sent to me out in the

1483
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,960
pittsburgh area have you had any of

1484
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:02,720
those

1485
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,240
well over the years i've heard a lot of

1486
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:06,319
stories from a lot of women yeah

1487
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,280
and uh and again i had some cases where

1488
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:11,280
some mystery men showed up

1489
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,359
i mean in one case and they were not

1490
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:15,119
always dressed in black either

1491
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:18,400
right very street clothes and uh there

1492
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:21,119
was that one case back to again in 73

1493
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,319
during this outbreak

1494
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:24,240
in derry township along the chestnut

1495
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:26,720
ridge which continues year after year to

1496
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:28,319
be active with all kind of phenomena

1497
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:31,280
including this year and

1498
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:32,880
this was at a large mobile home

1499
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:35,200
community and over the months during

1500
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:36,160
that time

1501
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:37,760
many many people in that mobile home

1502
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:39,760
committee had seen ufos or bigfoot or

1503
00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:40,559
both

1504
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:43,520
and on this one particular night it was

1505
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:44,240
in august

1506
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:47,680
um my team was down actually in harmony

1507
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,319
another area i got a call from the state

1508
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:51,920
police about an incident uh

1509
00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:54,079
in this guy's backyard and we headed

1510
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:55,599
down there and this thing

1511
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:58,640
a guy just cut his lawn and he had his

1512
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,200
dog

1513
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:00,880
chained outside and he went in to get a

1514
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:02,400
shower he came back the dog's going

1515
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,119
crazy

1516
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:05,280
about 45 feet away here's his seven

1517
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:06,960
eight foot tall every bigfoot standing

1518
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:07,839
there

1519
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:11,520
that case we get a radio call from

1520
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:14,240
the 911 center that the police up in uh

1521
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:15,520
derry township

1522
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:17,040
wanted us to get up there right away

1523
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:18,800
they had a bigfoot ending up at the

1524
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:20,800
mobile home court well by the time we

1525
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,400
got up there was a distance away the

1526
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:24,079
local police already been there they

1527
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:25,680
found some footprints they preserved

1528
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:26,079
them for

1529
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:28,160
us what we found out was these people in

1530
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:29,680
their mobile home

1531
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,880
and the electricity is going on and off

1532
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:34,480
uh at the time that we're hearing

1533
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:36,079
something scratching on the outside of

1534
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,520
the back of the trailer

1535
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:39,119
there's dogs whining but it wouldn't

1536
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:41,359
bark like wine like scared outside

1537
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:44,079
and they hear this baby crying sound and

1538
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:45,680
they open up the back door and here's

1539
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,800
this large

1540
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:48,720
broad shoulder creature runs between the

1541
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:49,920
trailers

1542
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:52,400
anyhow when my team got there we

1543
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:53,599
searched the air we

1544
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:56,800
this is interesting too we found that

1545
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:59,280
that large heavy electrical supply

1546
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:00,640
lighter ran from this whole

1547
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:03,599
supply box the power box to the trailer

1548
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:05,200
underground but ripped up out of the

1549
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:06,640
ground

1550
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:09,680
and it was a really intriguing case well

1551
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:12,800
anyhow i believe it was a few days later

1552
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:16,800
that the the woman involved in the case

1553
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:18,559
was trying to reach me back in those

1554
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:20,079
days you might remember we actually had

1555
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:22,079
telephone operators he had a dial on the

1556
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:22,559
phone

1557
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:24,960
you could dial xero for help well she

1558
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,319
dialed zero for help

1559
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:28,480
because she had been trying to reach me

1560
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:29,680
and couldn't get through she

1561
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:32,000
says you hooked into the operator and

1562
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,760
the operator broke into my phone call

1563
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:35,280
with an emergency call

1564
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:38,559
and the woman said to me as i recall she

1565
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:40,000
said when trying to reach you and reach

1566
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:40,880
you she said

1567
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:42,720
i found i had found what i believed to

1568
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:44,800
be some hair near the door where this

1569
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:46,960
thing was standing and i had it she said

1570
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:49,599
this man this strange man showed up with

1571
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:51,520
an ohio license plate she said i do

1572
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:54,240
remember he has got an idea about ufo

1573
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:56,079
and it was acting really strange and he

1574
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,440
wanted to know everything about

1575
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:59,119
what happened he wanted me to talk about

1576
00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:00,800
where the bigfoot was and there was a

1577
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:02,240
small group of neighbors there and

1578
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:03,520
people were taking pictures of the

1579
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,319
footprints

1580
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:06,079
there was one little boy there they had

1581
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,680
one of those polaroid cameras where he

1582
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:08,880
instantaneously

1583
00:52:12,790 --> 00:52:11,440
pulled it out and you got a picture and

1584
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:12,800
he was taking a picture of the track and

1585
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,559
this guy grabbed it out of his hand

1586
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:16,640
wrinkled it up and the boy started

1587
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:18,000
yelling at him and said you just took my

1588
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,400
picture

1589
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:20,640
and the guy said something like he just

1590
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:22,000
made a picture for us

1591
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:23,119
and they went and destroyed the

1592
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:24,800
footprints and then people started

1593
00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:26,240
screaming and yelling and he ran through

1594
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:27,440
his car and he said he almost turned the

1595
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:28,800
car over getting out of there

1596
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:34,870
i got another question here now you and

1597
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:37,200
i a lot of us defensively knew

1598
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:40,160
sam sherry uh i ran across the guy a

1599
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:41,119
couple of times

1600
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,880
up on the chestnut ridge of course to

1601
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:44,160
you and

1602
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:47,760
uh and eric i know knew him

1603
00:52:56,069 --> 00:52:51,680
uh and i i know there was a you know on

1604
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:56,079
um on a cess movie he talked about

1605
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,559
sam give us a little bit of a little bit

1606
00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:00,160
of background sam and some of the

1607
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:02,800
sightings he had

1608
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:05,760
well i was the main investigator of his

1609
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:06,880
initial sighting

1610
00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:09,680
and i really believe he saw what he saw

1611
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:11,520
back at that time period

1612
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:14,559
and that was down along the loyal hannah

1613
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:15,839
creek

1614
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:19,839
it would have been

1615
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:23,680
outside of ligonier pa

1616
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:26,240
you have a lot of sightings out in those

1617
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:28,000
areas for years and years and there been

1618
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,280
other night fishermen and people

1619
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:31,200
reported seeing this thing along the

1620
00:53:36,750 --> 00:53:33,440
creek coming up while they were fishing

1621
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:36,760
but this was back in

1622
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:40,160
1988 and sam was doing night fishing by

1623
00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:41,920
himself so i i got all the initial

1624
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:42,559
reports

1625
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:45,280
and i think what happened with sam was i

1626
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:46,640
mean he just became

1627
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,359
just overall enthralled by the

1628
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,760
experience and he wanted to prove it

1629
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:53,680
and for years and years he divided his

1630
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:55,200
life to go out and try to bring

1631
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:58,480
these things in yes you did um i i

1632
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,640
i didn't have time to follow up on many

1633
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:01,920
of the cases or other people

1634
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:03,200
investigated the report

1635
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:05,280
and i investigated that report but i had

1636
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,800
so many other ones coming in

1637
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:08,240
we just didn't have time to do

1638
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:10,160
everything and sam was reporting quite a

1639
00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:11,440
number of different reports

1640
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:13,280
over the years from himself and other

1641
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:15,760
people but anyhow that case was kind of

1642
00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:19,119
interesting and about 11 30 at night it

1643
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:20,960
was a warm evening

1644
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:23,040
he opened his trunk to get out some

1645
00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:24,720
fishing tackle we had a flashlight with

1646
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:25,280
him

1647
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,880
he walked over to the edge of the

1648
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:28,480
causeway to check the water height

1649
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,559
and started fishing about 40 feet away

1650
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:32,800
to his left he heard a commotion in the

1651
00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:33,280
woods

1652
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:38,240
his flashlight direction the light cloud

1653
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:39,760
what appeared to be tears around the

1654
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,640
eyes that glowed bright orange

1655
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:44,240
and he said they were like holes of fire

1656
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,000
which other people would describe

1657
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:47,920
it seemed to change size at times is

1658
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:49,200
just squinting

1659
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:50,960
the man was puzzled by clear about what

1660
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:52,319
he was seeing he walked over his car to

1661
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:53,520
retrieve his landing

1662
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:55,520
about that time he smelt a strong musty

1663
00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:58,319
odor that he could not identify

1664
00:55:01,990 --> 00:55:00,799
and he heard a sound that shined a slash

1665
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,000
light toward that direction

1666
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:04,559
and he said only about 20 feet away

1667
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:05,280
here's this

1668
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:07,040
hair covered creature now this

1669
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:08,960
description was a little odd

1670
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:10,079
because it wasn't something you

1671
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:12,319
typically heard and he's

1672
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,920
he said this thing was about six and a

1673
00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:15,599
half feet tall cut with

1674
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:17,599
soft fine fur that was reddish brown of

1675
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:19,599
color the arms were thin and long

1676
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:21,359
hanging down below the knees

1677
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:23,200
looked away several hundred pounds

1678
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:25,839
looked muscular was about 24 inches wide

1679
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:27,040
across the shoulders

1680
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:28,480
the egg shaped head seemed small

1681
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,079
compared to the rest of the body

1682
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:32,160
he did not see any neck or waist the

1683
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:34,400
face was covered with wrinkles he said

1684
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:35,119
it made him look

1685
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,079
like this thing was very old in age and

1686
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:39,920
he said the creature

1687
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:42,720
uh his lips were pushed out the entire

1688
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:43,680
time was seen

1689
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:45,200
and the man could see the creature had

1690
00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:47,920
no teeth the hands were human-like but

1691
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:48,880
much larger

1692
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:50,880
the feet were about 13 inches long yet

1693
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:53,040
narrower and width were five-toed

1694
00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:55,839
it was the hair on the head that was so

1695
00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:56,720
unusual

1696
00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:58,960
because you said it looked almost like a

1697
00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:00,400
mohawk type of haircut

1698
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:01,760
going down the center of the head

1699
00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:03,920
towards the back some areas of the

1700
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:06,079
shoulders chest elbows knees have large

1701
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,559
bare areas where there was no fur and it

1702
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:10,559
gave him the impression it had mange

1703
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,640
now that was interesting because over

1704
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:15,040
the years there have been very few

1705
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:16,640
but even in recent years we've had

1706
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:18,640
reports of creatures

1707
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:21,760
that have large spots of of areas on the

1708
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:22,559
body where the

1709
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,319
hair is missing and people said it

1710
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:26,240
looked like it had mane so yeah i

1711
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:29,680
always thought this guy saw something

1712
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:33,599
um we have another question in here

1713
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,760
and this is similar to what i

1714
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:37,440
encountered back in 81

1715
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:40,160
where i thought what i saw look like a

1716
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:41,200
neanderthal

1717
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:44,400
now have you had or recall

1718
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:47,760
any sightings in pennsylvania of

1719
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:52,319
neanderthal like creatures or um

1720
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:55,359
possibly look like what people call

1721
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,640
cavemen or do you just think these were

1722
00:57:02,789 --> 00:57:00,720
uh these were bigfoot instead of feral

1723
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:02,799
people

1724
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:05,599
um i could not think of any cases like

1725
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,079
that

1726
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:08,000
yeah i i've interviewed hundreds of

1727
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:10,400
bigfoot witnesses in pennsylvania

1728
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:12,160
and generally the majority of those

1729
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:14,480
reports about six to nine feet tall

1730
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,480
but we've had smaller ones seen

1731
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:18,160
generally about four to five people in

1732
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:19,280
that range

1733
00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:21,520
and then we've had a few cases that were

1734
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:22,799
very well documented

1735
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:25,520
as weird as it sounds i mean we had some

1736
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:26,000
really good

1737
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:27,920
reports over the years where there was a

1738
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:29,359
good way to estimate the height and

1739
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:30,960
you're looking at 12 foot tall

1740
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:33,200
so what is something that big high and

1741
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:34,000
you know

1742
00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:35,599
when my teams were out there especially

1743
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:37,440
during the 70s if we would have a

1744
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:38,400
sighting near

1745
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:40,640
a cave or a mine we would go in and

1746
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:41,680
search for evidence

1747
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:43,359
and we never found the evidence of these

1748
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:44,880
things we're staying or living in a cave

1749
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:50,230
yeah i can't recall any of those as well

1750
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:51,280
i'm uh

1751
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:53,119
i was thinking when i saw the question i

1752
00:57:56,789 --> 00:57:54,559
was thinking about it

1753
00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:56,799
and i i can't think of anything like

1754
00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:58,240
that offhand either but

1755
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:01,520
who knows it possibly could be yeah

1756
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:03,680
and lauren i one day you know we started

1757
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:05,359
talking there was a question back when

1758
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:06,960
we first started

1759
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:09,119
and i think somebody asked during that

1760
00:58:12,309 --> 00:58:10,559
73 outbreak

1761
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:12,319
if it was just pennsylvania or were

1762
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:14,400
there other states you know experiencing

1763
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:15,599
similar phenomena well

1764
00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:17,200
i never finished answering the question

1765
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:19,280
i got into the pennsylvania party

1766
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:21,200
while pennsylvania had the largest

1767
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:23,520
outbreak with ufos and bigfoot

1768
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:25,680
many other states were having a lot of

1769
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:26,799
ufo activity

1770
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:29,680
but that kind of peaked in the fall of

1771
00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:30,880
73

1772
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:32,720
when you began to see newspaper comes

1773
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:33,920
from around the country

1774
00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:36,319
with some amazing ufo incident and i was

1775
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:38,079
making lots of news at the time

1776
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:40,240
but also a number of states that i can

1777
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:41,520
just tell off the top of my head i think

1778
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:42,000
was

1779
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:45,760
like ohio illinois

1780
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,799
tennessee um

1781
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:50,640
i've tried it i think maybe in kentucky

1782
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:51,760
i'm not sure but there were there were a

1783
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:52,799
number of states

1784
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:54,559
that were having some really interesting

1785
00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:56,480
bigfoot activity as well

1786
00:59:01,309 --> 00:58:59,839
yeah well maryland i mean uh of course

1787
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:01,319
you know

1788
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:04,799
7273 we had the sykesville monster thing

1789
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:08,079
which a lot of people attributed to um

1790
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:11,359
to the flooding from uh uh agnes

1791
00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:13,119
i don't know they think maybe something

1792
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:14,559
moved it somehow

1793
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:16,720
but though that area has had bigfoot

1794
00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:18,640
sightings over the years

1795
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:21,680
and i knew there was an increase of uh

1796
00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:24,880
ufo sightings so yeah 73 was busy

1797
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:27,760
there's no doubt about that

1798
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:30,000
it was an amazing time period from what

1799
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:31,040
i recall

1800
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,640
and there were other research on with a

1801
00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:34,240
lot of ufo coming around the country and

1802
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:35,760
there were a lot of reports of various

1803
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:36,400
type of

1804
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:39,520
entities being reported

1805
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:42,640
yep yep well stan

1806
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:44,240
i want to thank you again for coming on

1807
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:45,680
the show it was it was

1808
00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:48,319
very nice to have you back on i want to

1809
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:50,960
get you on more and more if possible

1810
00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:53,599
uh can you kind of tell us what's up

1811
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:55,119
what's going on

1812
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:56,640
yeah i think you're working on another

1813
01:00:02,069 --> 00:59:58,160
book as well uh

1814
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:02,079
you got any uh any appearances planned

1815
01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:05,280
well i've had multitudes of uh people

1816
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:07,440
requesting me to come the events and

1817
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,559
uh i'm still being a little cautious uh

1818
01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:12,319
with the virus but i hope maybe later

1819
01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:13,680
this year i'll be able to get out

1820
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:15,200
i've been doing a lot of interviews on

1821
01:00:19,430 --> 01:00:17,599
radio and uh podcast

1822
01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:19,440
uh all the events for the last two years

1823
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:20,960
pretty much have been canceled this year

1824
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:21,839
including the

1825
01:00:25,510 --> 01:00:23,760
expert ufo festival again this year so a

1826
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:25,520
lot of the big events i was scheduled to

1827
01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:26,559
be at uh

1828
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:28,799
not been able to attend but i'm i'm

1829
01:00:31,910 --> 01:00:30,559
hoping in the future get back into that

1830
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:31,920
and yes i've been working on another

1831
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,400
book

1832
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:34,079
i was hoping to have it out by now but

1833
01:00:37,270 --> 01:00:35,680
i've been so busy with

1834
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:37,280
a lot of other things going on locally

1835
01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:39,200
and a lot of reports coming in that

1836
01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:40,720
i'm hoping in the next few months we'll

1837
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:42,240
have it out but it's going to have

1838
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:44,559
some amazing cryptic cases and there's

1839
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:45,280
things in there

1840
01:00:50,870 --> 01:00:47,520
that nobody's ever heard about before

1841
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:50,880
and some of them are very very creepy

1842
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:52,160
well i definitely look forward to

1843
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:54,000
reading it and i look forward to having

1844
01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:55,680
you back on with us soon

1845
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:56,880
you take care and you have a nice

1846
01:01:00,390 --> 01:00:59,119
weekend okay all right

1847
01:01:05,030 --> 01:01:00,400
thanks very much for having me back on

1848
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:06,390
now if you've had an unexplained

1849
01:01:09,910 --> 01:01:08,240
encounter sighting feel free to contact

1850
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:09,920
me through the families of monsters blog

1851
01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:10,799
site

1852
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:12,960
i once again thank stan gordon for

1853
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:14,559
joining me this evening

1854
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:16,400
and thanks to each and all of you for

1855
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:18,000
watching and chatting

1856
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:20,079
if you made a super chat donation that's

1857
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:22,480
truly appreciated your support

1858
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:25,200
is what makes all this possible please

1859
01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:26,720
like subscribe

1860
01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:29,760
and share until next week

1861
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:32,720
when we have shannon legrow on with us

1862
01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:33,920
uh

1863
01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:37,599
publisher personality there will be an

1864
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:38,079
interesting

1865
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:41,040
show she she's been doing some writing

1866
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:43,040
lately she's got a bigfoot book it's out

1867
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:45,200
i think she got another one out as well

1868
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:48,640
so uh we always have a very interesting

1869
01:02:02,450 --> 01:01:51,040
conversation so stay healthy

1870
01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:04,829
[Music]

1871
01:02:15,110 --> 01:02:18,829
[Applause]

1872
01:02:18,839 --> 01:02:40,180
so